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Bet less than the minimum amount

Bet less than the minimum

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Many people want to try their hand at trading without risking large amounts of money. Knowing how to place a bet that is less than the minimum amount is useful to know and also explains how some of the software packages do it.

When this article was first published a few years ago, little did I know that it would be copied, plagiarised and generally stolen from this site and used by other websites. But after thinking about it for a while I realised that it is obviously something that people want to know. So I have re-written it here.
 

Placing a back bet at less than the minimum amount

At bettingtraders.com we would recommend starting off with minimum stakes when learning how to use the exchanges and learning how to trade. So backing at less that the minimum amount is a useful thing to know.

How does this work?Betfair operates all bets placed on the system to be put in a queue and matched on a FIFO (First In First Out) basis. For example, if you placed a bet for £10 at 14:01 then modified the bet to £20 five minutes later the amount will be seperated into another bet and the Betfair system will place the balance at the current time 14:05. The system will show not one bet at £20, but two. One for £10 placed at 14:01 and another for the same amount placed at 14:06. This is so you cannot jump the queue in order to get matched first. If bets were not put into a queuing system you would have chaos in each market as everybody tried to trump each other and get to the front of the queue. It is this system that allows us to bypass the minimum bet level.

Step one

The first thing to do is place a back bet at a price OUTSIDE of the current available price so that it will not get matched. Generally, we would choose 1000 but if your horse or team or whatever it is you wish to bet on is currently priced at 6.8 then you could use 7.2. Choosing a high price minimises the risk of getting this bet matched because at this stage we do not actually want to place a bet

From the image below you can see we have placed a bet of £2 at 1000. We have to do this first as this is the minimum amount.

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Click for a larger image. Note - if the price is ALREADY at 1000 then we cannot place a bet for less than the minimum as the initial £2 will get matched.

Step two

Go into the "My bets" section of the screen and modify you order for £2 + £amount you want. In this example you can see that we want to place a bet for 1p so I have modified the order value to £2.01 When you have done this submit this bet.

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Click for a larger image.
 

Step three

The new bet will enter the market. But not as one, but two bets. One bet for the original stake of £2 then another bet for 1p!

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Click for a larger image.
 

Step four

Now cancel your £2 at the large price of 1000

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Click for a larger image. although we eventually placed a bet for £0.01 we actually needed £2.01 in our account as a minimum. If you have less than £2 + amount you wish to bet then this method will not work.
 


Placing a LAY bet at less than the minimum amount

Doing this is very similar to placing a back bet at less than the minimum. We place an initial bet using the minimum amount and subsequently modify it.

Step one

As with backing, we need to place a bet that will not get matched but as we are laying this time we need to go to the other extreme. Here, we place a lay bet of £2 at a price of 1.01.

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Click for a larger image. Note - if the price is ALREADY at 1.01 then we cannot place a bet for less than the minimum as the initial £2 will get matched.

Step two

Go to the unmatched bet and modify it to include the small amount you wish to bet. In the case of our bettingtraders.com bet we wish to bet £0.01 so we modify the amount to £2.01.

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Click for a larger image.
 

Step three

Submitting the new price has created two bets (neither of them filled by the market because of the silly price offered by you.)

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Click for a larger image.
 

Step four

Cancel the original £2 and modify the odds of the £0.01 bet to the price we want. We have just placed a lay bet for 1p!

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Click for a larger image.
 

Placing a bet less than the minimum on Betdaq

Unfortunately, Betdaq do not allow any method that bypasses the minimum bet. In my opinion, not allowing this is fairly short-sighted. Not only will it drive new users to the competition but once there the new users will probably stay with what they are used to and rarely have I known people to go to Betdaq from Betfair. If they operated a similar system to Betfair, it would not get abused and would increase liquidity on Betdaq. Something that will be vital if they are to become a serious second choice for Betfair traders.

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